Monday 24 October 2016

Can microbes rely on Elasmobranchs?

Particulate organic matter, in the form of marine snow, is usually the one of very few inputs of carbon into the deep oceans. However, very rare whale falls can support huge diversity of chemoautotrophic organisms as shown by Bennett et al (1994). They found that an intact whale acted as a habitat for colonisation by Beggiatoa, found as white and yellow microbial mats. As well as being able to support two species of hydrothermal vent clams: Calyptogena cf. pacifica  and Vesicomya cf. gigas. But, until Higgs et al (2014) it was unknown whether elasmobranchs or ‘fish-falls’ could support a similar diversity of life.

Higgs et al (2014) analysed photos and videos from four large elasmobranch carcasses over an area of 1.48 km2 on the Angola continental margin to assess what diversity a fish fall can support. Three of the carcasses showed signs of scavenger presence only; demonstrating fish falls play a larger role for mobile scavengers than primary fauna, such as microbial mats and hydrothermal clams, which are usually associated with whale falls.

Only one of the rays, Mobula genus, showed signs of further development beyond scavengers. There was a presence of a white microbial mat, assumed to be composed of sulphur oxidising bacteria. The presence of this mat provokes questions which the paper simply can not answer, such as are they similar microbial assemblages to those on whale falls or are they completely unique to MobulaBesides this, there were no similarities to whale falls observed; no hydrothermal vent clams were noted as in (Bennett et al, 1994). However, this may have been due to a different stage in ecological succession and colonisation of surrounding sediments. No physical samples were taken from any of the carcasses, thus it is hard to accurately date the fall and speculate the cause.

The study acknowledges many limitations, including: inability to take samples, inaccurate dating values. For me, the largest limitation is that there were no physical samples taken and that repeat visits did not occur. Consequently, only one isolated moment in time, shortly after the fall was surveyed. This may mean key characteristics, such as the presence of microbial mats or hydrothermal vent clams, were missed due to a different stage in succession occurring. Therefore, I do not think this research is conclusive that fish falls cannot support microbial presence.

Although fish falls are rare and surveying is usually opportunistic, I feel this research was perhaps published too early. It would have been better to have a longer time frame to see if microbial and other whale fall characteristic species developed. The whale fall previously mentioned (Bennett et al, 1994) was discovered in 1987 and studied two years later, whereas Higgs et al. dated the fish falls at about two weeks, give or take due to inaccurate dating techniques. In saying this, it is useful information to know that many large fish falls occur off the coast of Angola, especially when this paper predicts these falls to transport 4% of the POC to the seafloor; far more than whale fall predictions.

This paper demonstrates fish falls are still ecologically important as they export energy and carbon to deeper waters but as yet have not been found to support microbial activity.

11 comments:

  1. Hi,

    I totally agree with your statement that this study may be published too early and further research is absolutely necessary.
    Do you think that after a longer period of time the bacteria, worms and other organisms occurring will be the same as at whale carcasses? Intuitively I would say yes, because I don't think that there is a huge difference apart from the ones being mammals and having bones, the others being fish and not having real bones, only cartilages.

    You mention that there is a lot of fish fall at the coast of Angola, is there any (ecological) reason?

    Thanks,
    Eleni

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    1. Hello Eleni,

      I am uncertain as to whether there would be similar bacterial assemblages. The authors suggest that they may not support microbial life as fish: are primarily muscular, unlike whales which are largely blubber; have unmineralised bones, therefore degrade more rapidly than whales. In my opinion, there may not be the similar presence of microbial activity because of the differences in conditions.
      The author suggests both natural (predation attacks) and anthropogenic causes (ship strikes and entanglement), although the cause itself is uncertain. I would say that anthropogenic causes are more likely as Angola has several shipping ports.

      I hope this answers your questions,
      Chloe.

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  2. Hi,

    Thanks for the review and I agree with the points both of you have raised so far. However, if there was a difference in the communities around whale and fish carcasses due to the characteristics of the animals, I would also expect a difference between Chondrichthyes and Osteichthyes.

    Thanks,
    Johanna

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    1. Hi,

      This is an interesting idea which I had not considered. I would guess there would be a difference between the two groups. The authors indirectly suggest that there would be a difference as the Chondrichthyes in this study have more rapid bone degradation than Osteichyes. Unfortunately this study only looks at Chondrichthyes so there is no comparison with bony fish. This is something that future studies could look into.

      Chloe

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  3. Hi,

    While it is possible that more research might yield further insights, I am sceptical as to whether anything can be learned from this work that would contribute to our understanding of marine microbiology. The paper provides a nice story and it is true that the authors humbly note the opportunism and limitation of the study, but their focus appears to be on faunal ecology and deep-sea carbon flow. While it is true that cladisitically whales and osteichthyans are more similar to one another than the bony and cartilaginous fish, sulfide-oxidising bacteria have been described from decomposing whales, pigs (Anderson & Bell, 2014) and trees (Yucel et al, 2013) and their presence alone is unsurprising. I would be interested, however, to see further work looking at microbial succession in marine fish as to whether high osmolyte levels such as for urea and TMAO affect their decomposition in the wild, which may create differences to communities colonising whale falls. The haphazard methods, tiny sample size and faunal focus draws me to the conclusion that little further insight would emerge if this study was run for longer.

    Anderson, G. S., & Bell, L. S. (2014). Deep coastal marine taphonomy: investigation into carcass decomposition in the Saanich Inlet, British Columbia using a baited camera. PloS one, 9(10), e110710. http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0110710

    YĆ¼cel, M., Galand, P. E., Fagervold, S. K., Contreira-Pereira, L., & Le Bris, N. (2013). Sulfide production and consumption in degrading wood in the marine environment. Chemosphere, 90(2), 403-409. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0045653512009678

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    2. Hello,

      I have to disagree with you. I feel that there is a lot to be learnt from this paper. I think the absence of microbial evidence on some but not all Elasmobranchs, poses interesting questions as to why they are not found on Elasmobranch in the same why they are on whales. Surely this paper provoking ideas for future research proves it is useful? I agree that this paper does not directly show the importance of microbial presence as such, however I feel it serves as a good foundation for further research into an as yet unstudied area. Further research could include whether high osmolyte levels affect community assemblages or other ideas as to why microbes are not present at that time frame.

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  4. Hi Chloe,

    Thanks for your review. I think this paper is useful as you said because it predicts large fish falls to transport 4% of POC to the seafloor. You also mention many limitations to the study, which of course are limiting to this study, but to me this study's limitations are almost useful in showing future scientists that want to study this area ways in which they may be able to improve their study so that they don't repeat these inaccuracies to incur such limitations. I think that every paper has a use, and for me this paper's use is as a starting point for future scientists to continue this work and to build off of this, and to possibly learn from the limitations of this study too.

    Thanks,

    Amy

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  5. Hi Chlobro,

    Whilst it is good to speculate about future studies and what can be learned from future papers, it is not fair to judge a paper on future studies. It is similar to saying that a study looking at the soil composition on mars could open up potential research into extra terrestrial microbes if the experiment was run for long enough. The study on mars still does not tell you anything about marine microbiology even if future studies could. I would be interested to know what you actually learned from this study about marine microbes. However, if you do feel that this is a good foundation for future research into the field of marine microbiology then what is your opinion on the following points:

    1. What time frame do you think would be more appropriate to study Elasmobranch carcases? As you mention the study was restricted greatly by video only being taken at one time period. Which stage of succession do you believe microbial mats are most likely to occur and why do you believe this?

    2. You mention that there was presence of a white microbial mat, assumed to be sulfur oxidising bacteria. Even though you state that the paper cannot answer questions about this, do you have any thoughts on which bacteria could make up this mat and their similarities to whale falls?

    3. You have stated that surveying fish falls is usually opportunistic and that the paper was published prematurely. Do you have any thoughts on ways in which surveying fish falls and their microbial mats could be optimised?

    4. You state that many large fish falls occur off the coast of Angola but this is just speculation by the authors. They use this speculation to calculate that fish falls transport 4% of the POC to the seafloor. How useful do you believe this figure is with the knowledge that it is just a prediction? Do you have any thoughts on how they could improve the accuracy of this figure in future studies?

    I would really appreciate your opinion and would love to better understand what you have gained from this paper.

    Regards
    Scott morgan

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